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Post by TG Barighm on Dec 19, 2019 20:55:08 GMT -5
Have to. My sister is making me see it.
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Dec 19, 2019 21:51:47 GMT -5
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Post by acathala on Dec 19, 2019 21:51:47 GMT -5
I'm just going to pretend Disney star wars never happened.
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Post by TG Barighm on Dec 19, 2019 22:35:40 GMT -5
Well, keep pretending, because more are on the way.
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Dec 21, 2019 19:30:51 GMT -5
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Post by acathala on Dec 21, 2019 19:30:51 GMT -5
The sad thing was Rogue One and Force Awakens made me hopeful Disney knew what they were doing, despite Rey. Then TLJ happened.
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Post by TG Barighm on Dec 21, 2019 20:43:25 GMT -5
Force Awakens made you hopeful?
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Dec 22, 2019 13:36:54 GMT -5
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Post by acathala on Dec 22, 2019 13:36:54 GMT -5
Honestly it was an okay movie. The issues I did have with it, I thought would be rectified by the next movie. Instead Rian Johnson took a giant dump on the franchise and fans.
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Post by TG Barighm on Mar 5, 2020 16:07:35 GMT -5
A recent interview with Rian Johnson reveals that, to absolutely nobody's surprise, that he didn't give two shits about Star Wars canon before doing the movies. His words were essentially "No, I don't care about existing universes because this movie I'm doing now is its own thing and I don't need to know the universe or its characters because this movie is supposed to be new". I'm paraphrasing, but he replied to a direct question with direct response, so no worries about me butchering the context ("What about making movies within a pre-existing universe?" Answer: "No, because...etc.)
Now, I'm no crazy Star Wars fan, but even when thinking about franchises I don't like, I still try my best to advance the story in the most reasonable and expected way possible. Even then, I consider conferring with the original creator to make sure my plans work. Doing anything else strikes me as disrespectful.
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Mar 6, 2020 19:55:16 GMT -5
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Post by acathala on Mar 6, 2020 19:55:16 GMT -5
He's an asshole but a symptom of a much wider problem at Lucasfilm. They don't respect the fans, and expect them to gobble up any old shit and ask for seconds. God help you if you criticise the product, then you're a toxic fan. I just don't understand how they think alienating their core fans in favour of the weirdos on Twitter who want this super woke bullshit, is good business. Weirdos don't show up to see what they claim to want. True fans will show up, and promote it for free if the product is good. Just look at Sonic. I think Disney is going to be in trouble soon. The current phase of Marvel is over, and I can't find anyone excited about the next one. There is maybe 2 I want to see. Guardians of the galaxy and Doctor Strange. The rest look like it's going to be woke garbage. Star Wars is a dumpster fire right now, and I doubt they've made back the money they paid Lucas yet. Brie Larson comes across as the most unpleasant person ever on all the interviews I've seen the woman do. Fun fact, the captain marvel comic has been rebooted many times, and marvel fans hate every single version of her. The chief executive of the Disney stepped down, and his current replacement ran the failing theme park side of Disney.
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Post by TG Barighm on Mar 6, 2020 22:17:30 GMT -5
I still can't believe Sonic turned out so well. It's a total shocker. This is from the same company that's legendary for being horrible at marketing.
Pretty sure they did.
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Post by TG Barighm on Apr 3, 2020 4:32:10 GMT -5
Turns out Lucas had completely different plans for the new trilogy. Bob Iger is rather candid about exactly what was planned in his new book:
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Apr 3, 2020 5:32:16 GMT -5
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Post by acathala on Apr 3, 2020 5:32:16 GMT -5
It would have been better than what we got. I'm also sure Bob Iger is perhaps not telling the whole story. The way Disney has treated Star Wars has been nothing short of a disaster, and Bob Iger has to take a lot of the blame for that, first by hiring Kathleen Kennedy, and then not firing her. Star Wars used to be a bulletproof franchise, and now look at it.
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Post by TG Barighm on Apr 4, 2020 14:03:50 GMT -5
Well, here's a weird announcement: it has been darn near officially announced, as in, practically every leaker has spilled it so it might as well have been announced, that Ahsoka will be appearing in the next season of the Mandalorian. She will be played by Rosario Dawson.
On the one hand, this is obviously a marketing move, but on the other hand, it could lead to Ahsoka showing up in core Star Wars franchises and ultimately forcing Disney to take Star Wars out of Kennedy's hands and put it into the hands of their TV guys. While the shows haven't been THAT great, they haven't been that bad either. Not any better or worse than the prequel trilogy.
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Apr 4, 2020 14:20:12 GMT -5
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Post by acathala on Apr 4, 2020 14:20:12 GMT -5
Her contract is up, and I hope that the new boss either doesn't renew it, or kicks Kennedy up to somewhere she can't do any harm. As much as I would rejoice in an outright sacking, I doubt it's going to happen. Hollywood doesn't dare fire women.
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Post by TG Barighm on Apr 4, 2020 14:52:52 GMT -5
You under estimate the influential power of angry shareholders. When hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake, they'll fire anybody, for any reason, whiners be damned.
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Post by TG Barighm on Apr 22, 2020 16:38:20 GMT -5
Disney's Star Wars TV shows have been winning some respect lately.
So, naturally, Disney announces they're doing a crapload of new Star Wars TV shows. Emphasis on "crap".
They just don't get it.
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Apr 23, 2020 18:38:44 GMT -5
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Post by acathala on Apr 23, 2020 18:38:44 GMT -5
Not really surprised as one of the people they hired to run one of the shows is fucking awful. Sorry I mean feminist.
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May 15, 2020 16:07:36 GMT -5
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Post by acathala on May 15, 2020 16:07:36 GMT -5
I think they're going to renew Kennedy's contract, I really do.
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Post by TG Barighm on May 15, 2020 17:22:04 GMT -5
Let's not talk this sort of stuff anymore. The market is doing its job. They're going broke.
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May 16, 2020 14:56:05 GMT -5
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Post by acathala on May 16, 2020 14:56:05 GMT -5
It's just really upsetting me anyway. Agreed.
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Jul 12, 2020 19:39:48 GMT -5
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Post by acathala on Jul 12, 2020 19:39:48 GMT -5
In some rare good news for a change, it's rumoured Kathleen Kennedy is on her way out, and her current projects have been pulled. This would have included a knights of the old republic movie to be directed by Rian Johnson and Brie Larson.
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Aug 4, 2020 19:14:18 GMT -5
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Post by acathala on Aug 4, 2020 19:14:18 GMT -5
It's rumoured that Disney is in deep financial dodah, and massive layoffs are coming. If this is true, it should mean they'll be forced to listen to fans, instead of spewing out the gender political, virtue signalling trash that was Disney Star Wars.
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Post by TG Barighm on Aug 5, 2020 6:22:46 GMT -5
The major financial losses come from their parks being closed, though, so you shouldn't hold your breath.
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Aug 5, 2020 23:24:29 GMT -5
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Post by acathala on Aug 5, 2020 23:24:29 GMT -5
Even when they do reopen, they're unlikely to do the same numbers they once did. It's also not just the parks. For example Disney plus is failing hard.
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Post by TG Barighm on Aug 6, 2020 3:45:01 GMT -5
Disney Plus has over 60 million subscribers and about 100 million subs across all of their services. Their parks have recovered from far worst disasters in the past.
They've got no reason to be desperate.
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Post by TG Barighm on Nov 26, 2020 9:50:40 GMT -5
So, now the actor who played Finn in the new Star Wars movies is saying the reason why his character wasn't very prominent in the later movies is because of...racism.
Also, Disney is restructuring to become a more streaming orientated company with 75% of its entire output to become dedicated to streaming entertainment in the future.
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Post by TG Barighm on Dec 10, 2020 20:30:49 GMT -5
Disney still hasn't learned their lesson. Glut of new Star Wars shows announced:
-Ahsoka series -Lando series -Andor series -Some kind of thriller series -An Obi-Wan series, although this isn't new -Rogue Squadron movie -A movie from Waititi -Animated droid series -Animated Clone Wars successor -Post new trilogy series
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Dec 10, 2020 21:07:26 GMT -5
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Post by acathala on Dec 10, 2020 21:07:26 GMT -5
A lot of this can be put down them not firing Kathleen Kennedy. I wouldn't surprised if some of it was down to them panicking about HBO max. They're just going to run it into the ground because they're desperate for money. Anyone who complains about it, will be labelled toxic. The one bright spot is they appear to have realised the woke rage mobs on Twitter don't buy anything. There was a campaign to get Gina Caranp fired which failed.
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Post by TG Barighm on Jan 11, 2021 6:15:42 GMT -5
Well, I just finished off Star Wars Rebels and, while it doesn't achieve the same highs as, say, Clone Wars, it still ended up being enjoyable. More enjoyable than any of the new movies, actually. Its floor was not much higher than Rogue One, but it gained some steam towards the end and kept it going the whole way.
Kind of makes me wonder why, if they HAVE the talent to produce some decent to good Star Wars content in the animated space, why is their live action space dominated by crap? Dave Filoni was George Lucas' choice for Clone Wars, and he continued to prove why he was chosen in Rebels. Greg Weisman carried over his experience from Gargoyles to Rebels and it shows. I know new writers showed up later, but the show got better as it went, so clearly they knew what they were doing. And then Jon Favreau shows up with the Mandalorian, which really isn't THAT good, but it has its moments for sure.
So they clearly have the talent, but they just don't use it. Are they really that terrified of the idea of animation writers doing live action?
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Jan 11, 2021 22:01:57 GMT -5
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Post by acathala on Jan 11, 2021 22:01:57 GMT -5
The main problem as always, is Kathleen Kennedy and the horrible people she hired. For example one of the writers for Lucasfilm story group, said if you disagreed with her politics, not to buy her book. Sadly the rot goes up to the executives of Lucasfilm, one of whom mocked a fan for having an emotional reaction to something I cannot mention because it's a fairly massive spoiler.
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Post by TG Barighm on Jan 14, 2021 18:13:08 GMT -5
Rosario Dawson must not have actually watched Rebels and Clone Wars when researching Ahsoka. She probably saw other stuff and called it a day. She nails the soft spoken Jedi master thing very well, but if you know Ahsoka, you know she's not like that. She's a high energy character who wasn't in the Jedi order long enough to become all scholarly-like. I know she's a lot older by the time Mandalorian comes around, but that only matters if she had decades of Jedi influencing her personality. She didn't.
Hopefully she gets it right when she does her own show.
On the bright side, Boba Fett's return was totally badass. Not only did they do everything right, but he actually looked even BETTER. He even comes off as more badass than The Mandalorian himself.
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